tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post7197128114554851726..comments2023-10-24T21:04:01.214-04:00Comments on Old Centennial Farmhouse: Stand for the Red, White & BlueOld Centennial Farmhousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16865061855481840216noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-69827979695480668832010-04-19T15:09:35.507-04:002010-04-19T15:09:35.507-04:00You are showing your lack of understanding of our ...You are showing your lack of understanding of our financial system. The only way the government contributed to the problem we are in is by <b>not</b> regulating enough. Big banks are made to make money, and they do it much better <i>without</i> regulations. Much more to the detriment of the rest of us, too.<br /><br />And while dissent is certainly not unpatriotic, such willful ignorance, and opinions based on such a stubborn unwillingness to investigate with even a modicum of impartiality, are unpatriotic indeed.Ricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-70321220611901489052010-04-19T12:23:46.114-04:002010-04-19T12:23:46.114-04:00Rick, I find it useless to argue with idiots who t...Rick, I find it useless to argue with idiots who think that bankrupting our country, sending unborn generations into deep and unsustainable debt, all to save ourselves from a little but of a "hard time" is fine. <br /><br />Some people/corporations fail, some people/corporations don't: all based on their decisions and their assessment of risk.<br /><br />Having the freedom to risk that is what this country is all about. Government being the answer to anything related to financial reform is laughable, as government contributed in NO SMALL part to this financial mess, that is undeniable.<br /><br />Anyone who thinks that turning unborn generations and their futures into tax slavery is fine is not worth wasting time on. <br /><br />Have a great life, living in your dream world.<br /><br />I have no more time to waste on you and no more to say.Old Centennial Farmhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16865061855481840216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-88817080518281863742010-04-18T18:31:37.750-04:002010-04-18T18:31:37.750-04:00Haha, I totally agree with her. But you are defle...Haha, I totally agree with her. But you are deflecting.Ricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-20296529120363492872010-04-16T12:47:34.880-04:002010-04-16T12:47:34.880-04:00Who sounds angry, Rick? http://www.youtube.com/wa...Who sounds angry, Rick? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CzteDucRHo&feature=relatedOld Centennial Farmhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16865061855481840216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-70639708788907384152010-04-15T13:08:54.371-04:002010-04-15T13:08:54.371-04:00Also, 98% of working Americans have seen their tax...Also, 98% of working Americans have seen their taxes go DOWN. <br /><br />http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2010/04/president_obama_cut_taxes_for_98_percent_of_working_americans_in_2009.phpRicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-72475556203626564912010-04-14T13:47:32.906-04:002010-04-14T13:47:32.906-04:00Of course you have a right. But again, you have n...Of course you have a right. But again, you have not rebutted a single one of my points, just stubbornly maintained that, against all facts, you are right. On the tax slave thing:<br />1 - Do you know what the Boston Tea Party was? Do you think it was just because they were angry about having to pay taxes? It wasn't. They protested taxes imposed on them by a government in which they had no opportunity for representation. That makes all the difference in the world.<br />2 - Tax slave? Have your taxes gone up? I doubt it. Maybe if you're making barrels of money already (maybe). You should have been angry about Bush's trillion-dollar tax cuts to the wealthiest and the oil companies, which shifted that budgetary burden to the rest of us, but I'm willing to bet you weren't. You are no more a "tax slave" now, neither will you be, under Obama, than previous to Obama. <br />3 - If you're so outraged about the state of the union financially, how do you feel about financial reform? Because all those that represent your views are against it, which is a surefire recipe for repetition of financial meltdowns, gov't assistance to prevent calamity, and bankers getting rich off the rest of us. <br /><br />Just deferring opinions to the next election indicates an unwillingness to analyze the facts. Such a disposition is clearly against the good of the country.Rickhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_trSIBCgF0noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-28770948483739348392010-04-13T21:00:09.024-04:002010-04-13T21:00:09.024-04:00Okay, Rick. We'll see who is right. We shall...Okay, Rick. We'll see who is right. We shall see what happens when this battle is fought at the polls. We'll see if, as you say, the Tea Party Patriots are stupid, angry people. We'll see about it. You probably would have been trying to tell the original Tea Party Patriots that their little demonstration in Boston Harbor was stupid, too. Become a tax slave if you want to (or are you on the dole, too?!) but I refuse to become a tax slave without a fight. I have as much right to fight against this as you have to make your weak arguments FOR it. On that I know we can agree. So let's call it a day.Old Centennial Farmhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16865061855481840216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-45747950886442921822010-04-13T20:16:05.142-04:002010-04-13T20:16:05.142-04:00Well actually, http://www.usatoday.com/news/washin...Well actually, http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-23-health-poll-favorable_N.htm and http://www.gallup.com/poll/127190/Obama-Approval-Healthcare-Recovers.aspx <br />You are incorrect. But, just like every other point that I've caught you as blatantly incorrect about, I don't expect you to concede it. Again, fox news is not real news. It doesn't give you accurate information, which is probably why their tagline is as noncommittal as "we report, you decide." <br /><br />You have your opinions, too, which is fine. But if they're based on bad information, you shouldn't be so vehemently unwilling to re-think bad conclusions. It's ok to be wrong, but it's not ok to refuse to correct that.Rickhttp://online.wsj.com/home-pagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-82969581512240540032010-04-12T22:00:36.901-04:002010-04-12T22:00:36.901-04:00Rick...EVERY poll shows that the majority of Ameri...Rick...EVERY poll shows that the majority of Americans DO NOT WANT THIS health care reform: thus Obama's plummeting popularity and same with CONgress and you know it. So your whole point is dead in the water. If the Tea Party protests are so useless, most of us so dumb and gullible, then what are you so worried about? You say we can't affect change. So we'll see. End of story. You have your opinions.Old Centennial Farmhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16865061855481840216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-32981553658514385222010-04-12T21:54:29.022-04:002010-04-12T21:54:29.022-04:00OCF - You say you don't care about what other ...OCF - You say you don't care about what other countries do, but then state that we have the best health care period. That is simply not true, not one tiny little bit. We pay more for worse results than just about any developed country. "We're the best at everything" is just not true. Healthcare is our weakness. And reform, which a majority of Congress voted for, and a majority of Americans wanted, will not make it the worst in the world. That's just silly and nonsensical. <br /><br />Government doesn't tell us what to do - we tell them what to do. What you have a problem with is that the majority of America does not agree with you, so things aren't going how you yourself think they should. We all have independence, but independence as a nation is different from you personally (or fox news) getting to call the shots. I'm not arguing against the tea party, just certain points. Much of the tea party support is based on misinformation, and that's what I'm arguing against. Why would Obama want to ruin the country? How does that make sense to you? <br /><br />I'm not accusing you of racism, just some of the people you run around with. And you can deflect and say Frank is lying, but I think you know that's just not true, and there are plenty of accounts. <br /><br />I'm not here looking for your affirmation. I'm just engaging in some political discussion, but I've never met a teabagger yet who was reasonable and logical enough to reciprocate. Talking points and yelled rhetoric are no substitute for critical thought and actual discussion. The problem is that teabaggers do not get information from reliable sources. They seek out sources that confirm their own prejudices and desires. And the tea party will never have a significant effect on the political arena, because, let's face it, none of you would ever vote for a democrat anyways. It's not like they're losing votes. You'll end up capitulating and voting republican again, because teabaggers won't have enough political support (let alone political clout) to affect anything. Even if one teabagger makes it to the house, that person will just be a republican vote that nobody otherwise listens to, because their views do not make rational sense. <br /><br />But then, you're not interested in learning, or truth, or any of the things that actually make America great, you want low taxes and lots of government benefits. The hypocrisy is rampant.Rickhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAaDVOd2sRQnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-90031237199537788872010-04-11T23:29:43.397-04:002010-04-11T23:29:43.397-04:00Rick: Let me state my case...and I will save you ...Rick: Let me state my case...and I will save you the trouble of putting up your little links to "compare" our health care to "theirs". I DON'T CARE WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES DO. I AM AN AMERICAN. We now have the BEST health care BAR NONE. When Obama's done with it, it will be the WORST. That is a guarantee. If you like Europe so much, GO LIVE THERE. We Americans are DIFFERENT and for a reason. We are independent (Remember that idea?! Independence!!!) and in our thinking, too. We do not like to be TOLD WHAT WE need--by the dolts in charge of government. Your arguments against the tea party are WEAK at BEST. You are afraid of it because of what it is: an uprising against an increasingly UNPOPULAR president who is marxist and is not going to succeed in ruining our country as are his plans. Obama is not going to be happy until EVERY American is MEDIOCRE. Your efforts to defend your dear leader are to be commended....go get your approval elsewhere, you won't find it here. And...I just have to know, if OBAMACARE is supposed to "save lives" of those who are "dying for lack of health care in America"...WHY IN THE WORLD would it take so many years to implement such a DESPERATELY NEEDED program? Why?<br /><br />And as to your inference that the Tea Party Patriots are racists: EXCUSE ME. I DISAGREE WITH THE MAN'S POLICIES: NOT HIS PIGMENT. And just because BARNEY FRANK SAID there were slurs against him doesn't make it true. Barney has a problem with the truth: remember when he said there was no problem with the solvency of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? I DO.Old Centennial Farmhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16865061855481840216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-50202731749115042762010-04-11T22:17:43.767-04:002010-04-11T22:17:43.767-04:00Whoa, guys. Chill.
Marley - let's not get bo...Whoa, guys. Chill.<br /><br />Marley - let's not get bogged down in tired cliches like "kool-aid." Some freedom-loving Americans die because they cannot get healthcare. Some of them lose babies because they don't have insurance. Even if you work three jobs on minimum wage, it's not enough to provide the basics and health insurance. And I'd like to hear how it's you that's paying for people to be insured, because as I heard it, people have to get their own. We have worse healthcare than every one of those countries you mentioned, even Greece, with our system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy We have some of the worst, but most expensive healthcare in the developed world, and trying to fix that is not something that history is going to agree with you on, I think.<br /><br />Blue Tick - I'm sorry if I offended you. But it is not a homosexual slur at all. But Barney Frank knows what is, and heard some on the day of the healthcare vote, just as John Lewis heard racial slurs. Trying to dismiss me based on your misinterpretation does not allow you to avoid the reality of these events. <br /><br />Overall, you guys are very angry. I was very reasonable in my post, and your reaction was over the top, which I think is indicative of the basis at these rallies. Also, a few years ago, people were accused of treason (punishable by death, mind you), for criticizing the president during a war. I'll bet those people think very differently about the tea party, and I have not heard one accusation of treason from the left because of your views. So, in closing, Fox is not news, and please check your information. Also, don't be so angry and willing to demonize people because they think different things will make the nation better. Political hatred is not something Americans should practice at all, because it forecloses rational debate and leads only to irrational "debate."Rickhttp://www.Politifact.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-2425131104994636802010-04-10T17:59:16.714-04:002010-04-10T17:59:16.714-04:00RICK;
ONLY LEFT-WING IDEALOGUE BIGOTS SUCH AS Y...RICK; <br /><br />ONLY LEFT-WING IDEALOGUE BIGOTS SUCH AS YOURSELF USE THE TERM "TEA-BAGGERS". THAT OFFENSIVE TERM, AS YOU KNOW IS A HOMOPHOBIC TERM. I LOVE IT WHEN CONDESCENDING, ARROGANT BULLIES SUCH AS YOU CALL US RACIST HATE-GROUPS AND THEN USE HOMOSEXUAL SLURS TO DESCRIBE US. <br /><br />I WONDER IF YOU'LL STILL THINK DEBT IS EASIER THAN DEPRESSION WHEN HYPER-INFLATION HITS? <br /><br />I'M FOLLOWING MY GRANDFATHERS ADVICE FROM HERE ON OUT: I WON'T WASTE MY TIME ARGUING WITH FOOLS. IT'S PARTY TIME, TIME TO MAKE A SIGN AND GO OUT THERE AND PROTEST!BLUE TICKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-48165497680719534722010-04-10T17:37:29.413-04:002010-04-10T17:37:29.413-04:00Rick:
Sorry, pal: we're just not drinkin'...Rick:<br />Sorry, pal: we're just not drinkin' the kool-aid! You might have better luck spouting the old party line at an SEIU or ACORN meeting. Freedom loving American's have an independent spirit. We have never NEEDED government to spoon-feed us anything. Get a pair and buy your own healthcare!!!!! My kids and grandkids and I shouldn't need to work to buy it for you and you shouldn't have to buy h/c for us. If government run healthcare is such a wonderful thing, why aren't the country's such as Great Britain, France, Canada and, yes, Greece doing much better. In Greece, EVERYTHING is provided by the government, (workers) and, guess what? There are way more lazy, dependent, non-workers than there are producers. Study ancient Rome. Why did the government build the Colliseums? To keep Romans occupied so they wouldn't notice the government was collapsing under it's own weight. Our country is going the way of ancient Rome, Instead of repeating DNC talking points, study history; which has a nasty habit of REPEATING ITSELF!marleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-37491426777612438972010-04-10T13:15:34.564-04:002010-04-10T13:15:34.564-04:00Meh. Debt is better than depression. Without it ...Meh. Debt is better than depression. Without it we would be so much farther in the hole... The problem with the tea party is the problem with most protesters - they make noise and hold signs, but look like rabble and ideologues, and cause trouble (yes, like racism and hate). <br />Nobody's losing freedoms, that's just a rallying cry. I don't even know where that comes from. You can speak freely, but if you say ridiculous things, expect ridicule. The few things that teabaggers rally around are the stimulus packages (which avoided depression) and health care (which is health care). The country is set to make a profit on the bailouts, and all those doomsday predictions are just nonsensical. AND we have never ever, not once, been in danger of losing our freedom to the Taliban. It's a good cause, but don't misrepresent it to stir up the fervor. <br />Annnnd, last but not least, polls have shown that the tea party is about as popular as - yes - socialism in America.<br />http://www.politifact.com/Rickhttp://www.politifact.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-13604068894907582702010-04-10T12:26:01.200-04:002010-04-10T12:26:01.200-04:00Oh the burdens our children will bare because of d...Oh the burdens our children will bare because of decisions made now. You are so very right, our local tea party chapter is on the front as well...Thanks for being a passionate and encouraging voice! <br />DeeFHCShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13219727081957492341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-8754236082754964702010-04-09T14:29:12.263-04:002010-04-09T14:29:12.263-04:00I truly worry for my children. Will they have the...I truly worry for my children. Will they have the same opportunities as I had? Will they be permitted to speak their minds? Can they pursue their dreams?<br />Go Tea Party 2010!Sheila Henlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09323258536709915535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-85026230347079114722010-04-08T22:57:14.025-04:002010-04-08T22:57:14.025-04:00Thanks for reminding everyone that the bad PR rega...Thanks for reminding everyone that the bad PR regarding the Tea Parties is just to discourage us. <br />We must stand up for our country before it isn't our country anymore. One of my sons was born in East Germany. Believe me, he sees all the same signs.jamjarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073262402575178865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-829310413810061732010-04-08T18:50:41.838-04:002010-04-08T18:50:41.838-04:00I found out my step sister in Fla is a TPP and is ...I found out my step sister in Fla is a TPP and is very active in the sovereignty bill to block the new healthcare there. Very good post and the pix were lovely to view while reading it!!Bloggin bout my Boyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05378404296509825325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-35435352825440246672010-04-08T13:12:40.323-04:002010-04-08T13:12:40.323-04:00Now this is one of the best post I've read thi...Now this is one of the best post I've read this far in this new year to do with getting out there and make a stand on our freedom. There's much talk about what we are losing or should I say what we have been losing through many years now and it's at a high level now -- I guess that's why I keep coming over for a visit here. Thanks <br />Have a wonderful day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-16603352705676277562010-04-07T22:43:24.584-04:002010-04-07T22:43:24.584-04:00That was supposed to say...
Totally
Enraged &...That was supposed to say...<br /><br />Totally<br />Enraged & <br />Angrymaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02172254350026864557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-84228255137200414922010-04-07T22:42:43.076-04:002010-04-07T22:42:43.076-04:00Thanks and I agree with you totally. Unfortunately...Thanks and I agree with you totally. Unfortunately I have to work April 15, but I think my hubby was talking about going to one. Will see! I support our soldiers, as I was one myself years ago, but different circumstances now than 30+ years ago. God bless you one and all!Grandmabeckyl.blogspothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04362600588981799211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-50300580548028348462010-04-07T22:42:05.905-04:002010-04-07T22:42:05.905-04:00I'm going to a meeting this Friday evening at ...I'm going to a meeting this Friday evening at our local library where we are gathering to start a Tea Party in our county. I can't wait! It's time to dump some TEA!!<br />Totally<br />Enroaged &<br />Angry<br /><br />I tink I'll order some bumper stickers off the e-mail I sent you. Then I can stage my own tea party protests each time I drive...mary your sisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-57482376618814726422010-04-07T14:53:08.728-04:002010-04-07T14:53:08.728-04:00I totally agree with you. My son is in Afganistan ...I totally agree with you. My son is in Afganistan right now fighting for us. I pray everyday for his safe return. But the way our country is headed what is he returning to. Something needs to be done. I won't see you at your tea party but I can find one close to where I am. Take care love your blog!!!!!!Tammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606161041749648789.post-2647586012839388552010-04-07T10:08:38.448-04:002010-04-07T10:08:38.448-04:00Powerful post....filled with so much truth.Powerful post....filled with so much truth.Angelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11857554289543670693noreply@blogger.com